Hacker News with Generative AI: Business Models

Why Kagi launched "no use, no pay" (getlago.substack.com)
Paying for a SaaS subscription you don’t use sucks. Sure, I don’t use that shameful cupboard with the ice cream maker, sous-vide device and electric ham-cutter either, but at least those things don’t charge me again!
No OpenAI, I Won't Pay $10k/Month for Your AI Agent (thetrendysoftwareideas.substack.com)
OpenAI's latest pricing strategy has completely lost the plot. Yesterday, there was a leak that OpenAI plans to charge up to $20,000 a month for "AI agents".
Tell HN: Brother printers no longer consumer friendly (ycombinator.com)
I dislike the tactics many of the other printer manufacturers employ such as subscription services, DRM on cartridges, etc. I've always used and recommended Brother laser printers as they seem to largely not employ these non-consumer friendly approaches. They have always let you continue printing even when one cartridge was empty. I've always brought official cartridges out of respect for their business model.
The Era of Solopreneurs Is Here (manidoraisamy.com)
DeepSeek just dropped a bombshell: $200M in annual revenue with a 500%+ profit margin—all while charging 25x less than OpenAI. But DeepSeek didn’t just build another AI model. They wrote their own parallel file system (3FS) to optimize costs—something that would have been unthinkable for a company of their size. This was possible because AI helped write the file system. Now, imagine what will happen in a couple of years—AI will be writing code, optimizing infrastructure, and even debugging itself.
Is PyPI moving towards a paid subscription model / abandoning package neutrality (python.org)
Ask HN: Is it possible to start an AI product without venture capital? (ycombinator.com)
I have an AI idea that I'm developing, but I don't have any money to burn. I also worry that a $20 subscription might not be enough to cover the costs of the most active users. Is it possible to create an AI product and start a business without any cash on hand to attract customers?
Ask HN: Why do you trust Kagi? (ycombinator.com)
I frequently see high praise for Kagi here, both for the quality of the search results as well as the ostensibly customer-friendly business decisions.
They hijacked our flow state (desunit.com)
They stole our flow state – and turned it into a business model.
Keeping our free tier sustainable by preventing abuse (geocod.io)
While many SaaS businesses have started to remove their free tiers due to abuse, we are determined to continuing to provide a free tier for our standard service.
A vending machine, on the internet (threekindwords.com)
These days, every new business seems to be a SaaS. I remember when software worked differently: you bought it, installed it, and used it without having to create an account, remember a password, or even connect to the internet. Your data lived on your C drive, and you were in control. Software was a tool, like a hammer or a chair. Buy a chair, and you could sit on it for life. No monthly fees required.
Ask HN: Small Ideas vs. Big Ideas? (ycombinator.com)
I've been thinking about this one for a while, does it make sense to work on small ideas? Something like a utility a PDF converter or a small game and attempt to make it into an asset generating $10K - $30K in MRR? Or is it better to aim for building something as big as you can?
Ask HN: Are there any CLI only tools that are monetised (ycombinator.com)
I'm curious if anyone is aware of pure CLI tools that that are monetised, either by premium support or by offering a free and paid version. Majority I've seen are extensions of some sort of SaaS or desktop product (IDEs, testing, etc.)
Ask HN: Is it ironic that OpenAI says DeepSeek used its work without permission? (ycombinator.com)
Is it ironic that we have a free open-source model (that also shares reasoning chain) from a hedge fund and $200/mo model from a non-profit?
Ask HN: Has anyone tried alternative company models (like a co-op) for SaaS? (ycombinator.com)
Long story short, I'm building a new product and will likely launch it as a yearly SaaS with a permissive license.
Lifetime access plans are (mostly) a hoax (ycombinator.com)
I have never trusted the "lifetime access" plans offered by SaaS websites with subscriptions, as I know hosting services costs money and human resources to manage.
Ask HN: Why can't Mozilla offer a paid privacy tier? (ycombinator.com)
I love firefox and want to support it, I hate seeing the direction the company goes to with privacy.
Building a Self-Hostable Product (fusionauth.io)
In this article, you’ll learn about the architecture, business model, and software design choices necessary to create a self-hostable developer tool.
Delta emulator triples Apple's prices to encourage external clicks (theverge.com)
The Delta gaming emulator is now providing a link to sign up for Patreon-exclusive membership perks directly within the iOS app in Apple’s US App Store.
OpenAI O1 price gouging to get you to use Pro (reddit.com)
O1 limit determinations are completely screwed up, unfair, meant to gouge 200$ from us.
Show HN: No more subscriptions. Find software you can buy once and own forever (buyoncesoftware.com)
Bitwarden is no longer free software (github.com/bitwarden)
Desktop version 2024.10.0 is no longer free software
X will pay its Premium users to engage with each other (theverge.com)
X is making a big change to how creators can earn money from the platform.
Pydantic wants to cash its open-source credibility – but not in the usual way (techcrunch.com)
A U.K.-based, open-source startup is launching its first commercial product with the backing of one of Silicon Valley’s most renowned venture capital firms.
'Not a business model': How companies misunderstand open source (computing.co.uk)
The dust-up between (formerly) open source database Redis and its fork, Valkey, highlights the fundamental difference between what businesses want and what open source actually is, says Open UK’s Amanda Brock.
The End of Advertising (backgroundnoise.blog)
The business model that funded the internet is going away, and the open web will never be the same.
Open Source is not a Business Model (cra.mr)
So you’re starting a company and you want an Open Source business model, eh? Let’s talk about what that means, and how that statement is both totally valid, and makes no sense at the same time.
Ask HN: How can I monetise an open source app of mine that has become popular? (ycombinator.com)
One of my open source projects is starting to get a lot of traction (tens of thousands of users per month) without me realising. I built it a few years ago as a weekend project and promptly forgot about it.
Going open-source as a VC-Backed company (briefer.cloud)
Today, we're launching a free and open-source offering. But I'll be honest with you: Briefer is a VC-backed company, and it must make money.
A Post-Google World? (thebignewsletter.com)
Another Google antitrust trial starts on Monday. If Google loses, it'll be three strikes. At some point, they will give up and realize that the writing is on the wall for their current business model.
Volkswagen Plans to Shift from Selling Cars to Offering 'Vehicles on Demand' (techdirt.com)